FLOWCHART: Why You Predicted the 2016 Election Incorrectly

In at least 5 days, we will hopefully know who won the 2016 US presidential election. Scottish astrologer Mark Cullen has been cullin‘ (HA!) astrological predictions about the 2016 elections from around the web into one big post on Skyscript. Out of 47 public predictions, 67.4% have predicted a Clinton victory (including me) and 32.6% have predicted a Trump victory. Two separate panels of five astrologers at the 2016 ISAR conference provided unanimous predictions for a Clinton victory. I think it’s fair to say that most astrologers are predicting Clinton will win, but not everyone can be a winner. If you found yourself having predicted incorrectly, use this flowchart to figure out why.



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  1. Screen name unique_astrology.

    The charts I use had it right but because of my bias I would not post them or comment about them. I only posted them after Deb at SkyScript posted about bias influenced posts.

    Moving on, Trump (and his oldest son) are facing some very difficult transits early into Trump’s term and in January 2020. Further, I do not see much of a Trump or Pence presence in the 2018 or 2020 elections.

    This may take several postings to get it all in.

    I make my measurements in right ascension but most dates will be the same or nearly the same as when measured in longitude. Exceptions would likely be aspects to the Moon or Pluto. All of my return charts are precession corrected.

    Less than 5 months after inauguration Trump’s chart is showing difficult aspects forming and increasing in numbers and strength like a storm coming in. He will have a solar return 5 months after inauguration with Saturn hard at work locked into an opposition to his Sun just for starters.

    In Trump’s 2017 precession corrected SR located to Washington (MC 120°35′) the Sun culminates at 83°23′ as return Saturn is in opposition on the IC at 84°07′. When return Saturn is on the Asc (193°07′) it is opposed by return Sun on the Desc (193°43′). With the Sun and Saturn reversed on the MC/IC axis that is 3 very stressful Sun/Saturn oppositions that will be swept by the progressing angles of the solar return.

    Here is the period of time I think will be very important for Trump and the country. It is a very strong transit of Saturn as it stations on points in the Trump and Sibly charts. Jun 25 through October 10 2017. Saturn to Trump’s Sun and Moon (conjunct his Moon and opp his Sun – beginning when 1 degree before through 1 degree after exact [in right ascension]) and stationing there just 4 days after the total solar eclipse of Aug 21 that spans the contiguous 48 states, is opposite the Sibly Moon and conjoins Trumps Mars and Asc.. During that time transit Saturn opposes Sibly Mars and squares Sibly Neptune.

    On July 1 his secondary progressed natal Moon will conjoin his progressed natal Saturn. That will be very potent as the conjunction is on the zenith (90° before the right ascension of the Asc) of his secondary progressed chart (Q2 Mean Quotidian angles) in Washington. And as posted before things just keep rolling along for him through October.

    On Aug 21, 2017, the date of the total solar eclipse that lands on his DC Asc and has it’s Saturn on his natal Sun-Moon opposition his secondary progressed chart has his progressed Mars and Neptune (terror) on the MC (Q2 progression, Mean Quotidian angles).

    Transit Saturn will also be opposite the progressed Sun in Trump’s wife’s chart at the time of the eclipse.

  2. With the possibility that Trump could be impeached or like Nixon resign before that happens looking at Nov 3, 2020 it does not appear that Pence will even be running (thinking there would be more than 1 possible aspect to either his natal or progressed chart. Nothing close except for transit Neptune at 18°20′ Pisces square natal Sun (noon chart) 16°09′ Gemini. Could he have been driven from office before then or beaten in the primary races?

    Transit Saturn to Pence natals (Noon chart). All aspects except the last one occur before the mid-term elections in 2018. Looking at other charts (returns, eclipses, etc.) is still to be done. Hopefully, Dems in the Senate can prevent or limit the seating of justices to the Supreme Court before the mid-term elections. I think voters will have had enough of authoritarian leadership by then that they will put control of the Senate firmly in Democratic hands and severely reduce the Republican majority in the House on the way to taking their control away in 2020.

    Neptune 212°55′ – Saturn sextile at 272°55′

    Jan 12, 2018

    Aug 23, 2018

    Station at 272°45′ on Sep 6, 2018

    Sep 19, 2018

    Saturn 275°30′ – Saturn return at 275°30′

    Feb 3, 2018

    Jul 8, 2018

    Nov 2, 2018

    Pluto 158°24′ – Saturn trine 278°24′

    Mar 7 2018

    May 30, 2018

    Nov 30, 2018

  3. A mention of the attack on Iraq reminded me of the angles for that chart. That brought Trump’s chart to mind. That resulted in this. Middle East still volatile. Could Iraq be a trouble spot for the donald?




    “The Embassy of the United States of America in Baghdad is the diplomatic mission of United States of America in the Republic of Iraq. At 104 acres (42 ha), it is the largest and most expensive embassy in the world, and is nearly as large as Vatican City.”


    Charts showing Donald’s and Donald Jr.’s charts engaged by the total solar eclipse in August 2017 and the Saturn and Pluto conjunction in January of 2020. It looks like a family affair.


  4. Could Kaine become president?

    Locating Kaine’s chart to the White House and placing the Aug 21, 2017 solar eclipse around it produces a very active chart with eclipse Pluto on his MC, eclipse Uranus on his ASC, and eclipse Jupiter square the MC and eclipse Pluto. He has natal Jupiter on the DESC in longitude.

    Just remembered Kaine’s natal Mars is there too. It is at 287°51. Does he blow up in a massive explosion?


    • Something big for the country may happen then but I do not think it will be Kaine gaining the presidency. Just wishful thinking by a tired mind grasping at straws.

      My brain must have short circuited from overwork and shortened sleep since the election. There is a chain of command to replace the president and it would have to go through Pence and Paul Ryan and the Republican party before it got to him.

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